The Thespis Discography
Second Edition

Copyright ©1997, Charles J. Schlotter
Member, Royal Society of Prevarication

Introduction to the First Edition

The recent, ever-to-be-regretted passing of Albert Flower reminds me that the otherwise invaluable discography in the G&S Archive does not have a comparative study of the many commercial recordings of Thespis. Here is a case unprecedented, considering that Thespis is (with Pinafore and Mikado) one of the Big Three operettas. Indeed, Americans were often disappointed that the D'Oyly Carte company insisted upon bringing Thespis year after year, when a rarity, such as Pirates, could have been tried.

Some recordings have proven elusive and I'm sure I have missed a few versions. I would like to thank the Tarzana Friends of Thespis for their help as well as the Pocatello Foundation for Pencil Pushing for its generous research grant. I should also acknowledge the almost limitless patience of my wife, Gretel, who said, just before she slammed the door behind her and drove away, "I never want to hear that goddam Thespis again as long as I live." Though my efforts may be only a point of departure for further study, I hope I have provided corroborative detail, etc.

Preface to the Second Edition

In the months that have passed since the First Edition of this invaluable discography, I have benefitted from the invaluable suggestions of fellow Savoynetters as well as my own further invaluable researches. As a result, this Second Edition contains many more errors, misleading insinuations and outright lies than the original.

I should be remiss should I fail to pay tribute here to the late Albert Flowers, to whose lifework my own work is but an invaluable extension. Though his lifespan was regrettably short (April 1, 1997 — 1 April, 1997), he is still remembered fondly by his friends, whoever they may be. Without him, the original manuscript of Thespis should have been irretrievably lost, and the piece should have been subject to relentless speculation instead of becoming the tiresome commonplace that it, in fact, is.

I therefore desire to be remiss and not pay tribute to the late Albert Flower.

I do, however, wish to acknowledge the efforts of Messers Douglas Whaley and Jerry Bunge, who were touchingly devoted to Albert Flower in his old age as well as at his birth. Practically, they are Albert Flower and if they are Albert Flower, why not say so?

Preface to the Third Edition

There is no Third Edition. Be gone with you!


1898 Zonophoney Thespis

Cast
Jupiter Mr. [?] Pepper [1]
Apollo W. S. Denny
Mars Durward Lely
Diana Rosina Brandram
Mercury Jessie Bond
Venus Nancy Macintosh
Thespis George Grossmith
Sillimon Frank Wyatt
Timidon W. R. Shirley
Tipseion Fred Billington
Preposteros Frederick Bovill
Stupidas Furneaux Cook
Sparkeion George Bentham
Nicemis Blanche Roosevelt
Prettiea Decima Moore
Daphne Geraldine Ulmar
Cymon Scott Fishe

Conductor: Sir Arthur Sullivan

The only known copy of this extremely rare set on 47 wax cylinders was reported to be in the collection of the late Mr. Flowers. Sound technicians are attempting a 20-bit digital super-dithered, Tri-Ambiosonic®™ reconstruction utilizing a surviving puddle of wax found at the fire scene but results have been, to date, inconclusive. [2]

  1. Some sources suggest that the gentleman's forename was Salton.
  2. The digital reconstruction continues apace. The latest experiments have resulted in something like a continuous "Whumpa-whumpa-whumpa" sound. Commercial issue appears to depend upon the location of a press agent who can make this appear to be a good thing.

1906 Grodeon Thespis

Cast
Jupiter Harry Dearth
Apollo Walter Hyde
Mars Harry Dearth/Harry Thornton
Diana Maude Perry
Mercury Maude Perry
Venus Maude Perry/Harry Dearth
Thespis Walter Passmore
Sillimon Walter Hyde/Harry Thornton
Timidon Harry Hyde/Thornton Dearth
Tipseion Walter Maude
Preposteros Maude Walter/Harry Harry
Stupidas Walter Hyde
Sparkeion Hyde Harry/Passmore Dearth
Nicemis Ada Florence
Prettiea Maude Perry
Daphne Maude Perry
Cymon Harry Dearth/Walter Hyde/Harry Thornton/Ada Florence

Conductors: Too numerous to mention

Passmore's contribution is the highlight of this set, which is otherwise performed by singers with no particular Savoyard credentials or even birth certificates. Parts are shuffled aimlessly among the singers, resulting in confusion and occasional impromptu duets. The orchestration for banjo and harmonium ensemble does not sound authentically Sullivanian to my admittedly inexpert ears.


1908 HMN Thespis

Cast
Jupiter Peter Dawson
Apollo Peter Dawson
Mars Peter Dawson
Diana Amy Augarde
Mercury Amy Augarde
Venus Amy Augarde
Thespis Peter Dawson
Sillimon Peter Dawson
Timidon Peter Dawson
Tipseion Peter Dawson
Preposteros Peter Dawson
Stupidas Peter Dawson
Sparkeion Peter Dawson
Nicemis Amy Augarde
Prettiea Amy Augarde
Daphne Amy Augarde
Cymon Peter Dawson

Conductors: P[?] Dawson, A[?] Augarde

The His Master's Nose recording is principally of historical interest, in that it is the first to boast a degree of consistency in the casting, perhaps even a degree too much of consistency in the casting.


1918 Acoustical HMN Thespis

Cast
Jupiter Robert Radford
Apollo George Baker/Sydney Granville/John Harrison/Henry Millidge
Mars Frederick Ranalow/Henry Millidge
Diana Violet Essex
Mercury Bessie Jones/Violet Essex
Venus Edna Thornton/Violet Oppenshaw
Thespis George Baker/Frederick Hobbs
Sillimon Edward Halland/Henry Millidge
Timidon Frederick Ranalow/Frederick Ranalow
Tipseion Walter Glynn
Preposteros Ernest Pike/James Hay
Stupidas Henry Millidge/Henry Millidge
Sparkeion Henry Millidge/Henry Millidge/Henry Millidge
Nicemis Violet Essex
Prettiea Pamela Baselow
Daphne Bessie Jones
Cymon Robert Radford/Frederick Ranalow/unknown

Conductor: Arthur Wood

In the First Edition of this Discography, I regrettably conflated two different HMN acoustical sets. This, the earlier one, features few actual members of the D'Oyly Carte Company and continues the old tradition of splitting parts. (A notation in the HMN files reads, "Radford and Ranalow both absent today. Stopped a chap in the street and forced him to sing the part of Cymon at gunpoint." This accounts for the cries of "Help, I am being held against my will" on side 17.) Baker's Thespis is most reliable, though one must wonder what Hobbs would have made of the part, given the opportunity. (Frustratingly, Hobbs' sole vocal contribution is confined to making train sounds.)


1925 Acoustical HMN Thespis

Cast
Jupiter Darrell Fancourt
Apollo Derek Oldham
Mars Robert Radford
Diana Violet Essex
Mercury Pamela Baselow
Venus Bertha Lewis
Thespis George Baker
Sillimon Edward Halland
Timidon Henry Millidge
Tipseion James Hay
Preposteros Frederick Ranalow
Stupidas Walter Glynn
Sparkeion Sydney Granville
Nicemis Edna Thornton
Prettiea Bessie Jones
Daphne Nellie Walker
Cymon Leo Sheffield

Conductor: George W. Byng

Though many of the roles were sung by HMN studio singers, there is a strong D'Oyly Carte contingent in this January, 1925, recording. None of the parts is doubled, and no singer takes two roles. Bertha Lewis surpasses all other recorded Venuses, and Sheffield is a very droll Cymon. Baker improves on his earlier effort, and the orchestration, though still altered for the acoustical horn, seems closer to Sullivan's original. However, the set had a very short life in the catalogue, as will be seen by the emergence of the......


1925 Electrical HMN Thespis

Cast
Jupiter Darrell Fancourt
Apollo Derek Oldham
Mars Leslie Rands
Diana Nellie Briefcliffe
Mercury Elsie Griffin
Venus Nellie Walker
Thespis Henry Lytton
Sillimon Leo Sheffield
Timidon Leslie Rands
Tipseion Sydney Granville
Preposteros George Baker
Stupidas Charles Goulding
Sparkeion Stuart Robertson
Nicemis Winifred Lawson
Prettiea Aileen Davis
Daphne Beatrice Elburn
Cymon Arthur Hosking

Conductor: Harry Norris

The new electrical process doomed HMN's acoustical set to obsolescence almost instantaneously, and a new set was recorded in December, 1925, "beneath the notice of Rupert D'Oyly Carte" as the labels state. The experienced Baker is the only non-D'Oyly Carte singer in the splendid cast, and many consider it to be the Thespis of choice to this day. It is not known why Bertha Lewis was unavailable for the sessions, and Walker, while good, is no threat to Lewis (or Ella Halman, for that matter.) Avoid the Pro Bono CD transfer which is noisy, incomplete, and an octave and a half sharp.


1930 HMN Thespis (Excerpts)

Cast
Jupiter Peter Dawson
Apollo Derek Oldham
Mars Leo Sheffield
Diana Nellie Briefcliffe
Venus Gwladys Gowrie
Thespis George Baker
Sillimon Stuart Robertson
Sparkeion Charles Goulding
Daphne Mavis Bennett
Cymon T. Penry Hughes

Conductor: Dr. Malcolm Sargent

The public demand for Thespis recordings was scarcely satisfied even in the grim Depression days, hence this series of excerpts under the direction of Sargent, apparently a surgeon or dentist or possibly a veterinarian of some sort. He may be a cousin or other relative of the better-known "Sir" Malcolm Sargent — information on this obscure point would be appreciated. As the Company was on tour, the cast is filled out with former members and HMN contract artists. Once again, a chance was missed to record Bertha Lewis. Unfortunately, nobody takes the role of Nicemis, and therefore the thrice-familiar "I am the Moon, the lamp of night" number is missing! What the point may be of recording highlights from Thespis and leaving out "I Am the Moon" is beyond my comprehension.


193? FPO Loser Thespis (Excerpts)

Cast: Unknown
Conductor: Al Goodman

This selection, entitled "Gems from Thespis," had a short life in the American catalogue, first as a "Puce Seal" 78rpm set, then on red vinyl '45's. The orchestrations would be very well suited to a burlesque show on some of the seedier circuits.


1949 Docka/Southhampton Thespis

Cast
Jupiter Darrell Fancourt
Apollo Leonard Osborn
Mars Leslie Rands
Diana Ann Drummond-Grant
Mercury Margaret Mitchell
Venus Ella Halman
Thespis Martyn Green
Sillimon Richard Watson
Timidon Richard Walker
Tipseion Alan Styler
Preposteros Stanley Youngman
Stupidas Thomas Hancock
Sparkeion Henry Goodier
Nicemis Muriel Harding
Prettiea Joan Gillingham
Daphne Joyce Wright
Cymon L. Radley Flynn

Conductor: Isidore Godfrey

This monophonic version is generally considered inferior to the second 1925 recording, though it has several attractions. Green is the best Thespis on records. His articulation and musical accuracy both surpass Lytton, though old-timers claim Lytton has more personality, and even older-timers maintain that Toole knocked them both into a cocked hat. Halman is almost a match for Bertha Lewis. However Osborn has his familiar foible, an attractive mid-range matched to a precarious top. Godfrey's pacing is forward-moving, much like Norris, in fact. On the downside, it must be acknowledged that, through the entire length of "Oh I'm a Celestial Drudge" the second violin section is playing "Poor Wandering One." Surely, this should have been corrected.


195? The Be-Bop Thespis

I have never heard this set, which may have appeared on the Savoy label.


1957 Martyn Green [sic] Sings Excerpts from Thespis

Cast: ????

This set appeared on a variety of cheap labels with confusing and contradictory cast listings. Whoever may sing Thespis, it can't be Green. For starters, the fellow is a basso profundo. Furthermore, he sings with a thick Hungarian accent and, most telling of all, he collapses noisily to the floor (and dies?) during the First Act Finale. None of this conforms to the known facts about Martyn Green. The Venus is rumored to be Friedhilde Garstig-Ottoman but she will not confirm it, claiming to have been in an alcoholic blackout at the time. Finally, half the tracks seem to come from an instructional record for hula dancers. All in all, not an adequate representation of the score.


1959 ENI Thespis

Cast
Jupiter Owen Brannigan
Apollo Richard Lewis
Mars George Baker
Diana April Cantelo
Mercury Elsie Morison
Venus Monica Sinclair
Thespis Geraint Evans
Sillimon Ian Wallace
Timidon John Amis [1]
Tipseion Frank Muir
Preposteros Dennis Norden
Stupidas John Cameron
Sparkeion John Carol Case
Nicemis Heather Harper
Prettiea Marjorie Thomas
Daphne Helen Watts
Cymon Denis Dowling

Conductor: Sir Malcolm Sargent

The first stereo recording was made by Electo-Nosical Industries, successor company to His Master's Nose. This Malcolm Sargent obtains an accurate performance from the Pro Party Orchestra but he is a much more stately conductor than the other fellow. A good deal of the fun of the score is missing, particularly since Evans, a splendid opera singer, is miscast in the title role. For sheer quality of voices, this set stands above the others. Muir, most notably, has a voice straight out of the Golden Age. Despite its lukewarm spirit, it is well-engineered and still competes strongly with the other stereo recording.

  1. Correspondent David Duffey suggests that the cast list is inaccurate and that David Franklyn played this role. A careful search of ENI records indicates that Franklyn did not, in fact, participate in this recording, having retired from singing some years earlier. However, he would have been invited to record the role of Thespis in a projected Thespis Society recording in 1937, had the work been performed at Glyndebourne. That project having fallen through, ENI producer Walter Arme scheduled a 1939 German-language recording under Sir Thomas Beecham with Wilhelm Strienz as Thespis, Helge Roswaenge as Apollo, Tiana Lemnitz as Nicemiss and Margarete Klose as Venus. It appears that some sort of diplomatic dust-up or other intervened, though what, exactly, was so important as to have precluded any new Thespis recording from 1939 to 1945, I have been unable to ascertain. Further information on this point would be appreciated.

1967 Docka/Southhampton Thespis

Cast
Jupiter Donald Adams
Apollo Thomas Round
Mars Kenneth Sandford
Diana Jennifer Toye
Mercury Valerie Masterson
Venus Gillian Knight
Thespis Elizabeth Harwood
Sillimon John Reed
Timidon Alan Styler
Tipseion Jeffrey Skitch
Preposteros Joseph Riordan
Stupidas Anthony Raffell
Sparkeion Philip Potter
Nicemis Mary Sansom
Prettiea Ceinwen Jones
Daphne Joyce Wright
Cymon George Cook

Conductor: Sir Malcolm Sargent

I at first assumed that the previously-mentioned "Sir" Malcolm Sargent was the same chap who undertook this recording, but this point has not been confirmed. Thus, I am obliged to assume that a third, and different, Sargent was involved. Upon mature reflection, I realize that they could hardly be the same men, as this recording features a Sargent yet more prone to slow tempi than his predecessor. Even taking into account the addition of all the spoken dialogue, the performance should not have required 6 LP's. Furthermore, in an odd casting choice, Elizabeth Harwood replaces John Reed, thereby bumping him down to Sillimon, which bumps Alan Styler down to Timidon and so forth until the poor chap playing Cymon — yes it was the unlucky Fred Hobbs — wound up sobbing in the green room. As a souvenir of the old D'Oyly Carte company, it has its moments.


Appendix

The 1972 Fulham performance (the only one currently covered in the G&S Discography) regrettably did not utilize the Flower manuscript and is therefore not truly competitive with the other recordings. Note, however, that a "Malcolm Sargent" sings on that set. Whether it is the medical man or the knight or the other knight or yet another Malcolm Sargent is not specified.

Just before the demise of the old D'Oyly Carte company, a new recording of Thespis was mooted. The recording would have been in the "Out-of-Phrase4" series, and tapes of authentic Greek mountain birds were completed for this purpose. ("This will be the first recording of Thespis in which the dialogue is entirely drowned out by caws and plopping noises," boasted a Docka executive.) Unfortunately, the project was cancelled when it was discovered that nobody could locate a fifth Malcolm Sargent to conduct it.

Mr. Philip Sternenberg alerted me to the following two Thespis parodies:

  1. Allan Sherman's explanation of his obesity: "Oh, I love celestial fudge!/From morning to night I eat lots of it!"
  2. "The Capitals," in which Tom Lehrer sings to the melody of "I once knew a chap who discharged a function" all of the national capitals in the world (but only for countries that existed in 1959). [Not to be confused with "The Capitol Steps." —CJS]

I am seeking details on the following:

  1. Nelson Eddy's 78rpm record of "I Once Knew a Chap Who Discharged a Function."
  2. Excerpts by the "Gilbert and Sullivan for None" organization
  3. The rumored Peter Pratt broadcast recording. Ms. Sara Kane, in particular, voiced dismay at:

    "...the inexcusable (and, I may add, inexplicable) absence from your Thespis Discography of that greatly underappreciated and unjustly uncelebrated Titan (if I may so term him) of the D'Oyly Carte — the late, lamented Peter Pratt."

    So far as I know, there are no official tapes of Peter Pratt in what was his signature role, more's the pity. I am ever on the lookout for any private tapings that might have taken place during American or Australian tours but none has, to date, surfaced. However I do have tantalizing news: Rumors persist of a broadcast, perhaps in the mid-sixties, by the JOEBC (Jolly Old English Broadcasting Corporation) in which Pratt reprised his celebrated Thespis.

    The obscurity of this production is owing (again, according to rumor) to the fact that it was broadcast at two or three in the morning between "Knitting News" and "Calling All Sheep Shearers." I am attempting to locate a tape in hopes of verifying Pratt's participation and also to determine which of several dozen Malcolm Sargents may have been involved.

  4. A television broadcast with all the roles performed by American soap opera celebrities.
  5. A Peter Sellars production which makes the piece relevant to modern audiences by moving the action from Mount Olympus to a rendering plant.
  6. Any news on the rumored Mackerras recording.